The Beavers seem to be the team that people can’t decide on. I’ve seen them ranked as low as 9th, and as high as 5th. It should be an interesting year for head coach Craig Robinson’s team. Heading into his third year in Corvallis, Robinson is slowly getting the team he wants to run his Princeton offense. He continues to surprise on the recruiting front, but it has yet to show on the court. After losing in the first round of the CBI last year, the Beavers look to make a push in the Pac-10 this year.
Key Losses:
Seth Tarver (10.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg) – graduation
Roeland Schaftenaar (9.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg) – graduation
Josh Tarver (3.0 ppg, 1.7 apg) – graduation
Best of the Rest:
While the three players above seem to be their core from last year, the Beavers still retain their leading scorer in guard Calvin Haynes (12.5ppg) and three of their top five. The others being point guard Jared Cunningham and guard Lathen Wallace. Haynes will look to be a big player this year and will push to make one of the All-Pac 10 teams (probably third team).
While they struggled down low last year, they return their entire front court except for Schaftenaar (at least I don’t have to spell his name anymore).That front court consists of a pair of seniors in Joe Burton, 6’7” forward who averaged 4.7 ppg and 4.5 rpg, and Omari Johnson, 6’9” forward who averaged 4.7 ppg and 2.6 rpg. They didn’t have a large impact last year, and I don’t think either of them will have made huge leaps forward this year, as well.
The biggest impact, outside of Haynes, will come from redshirt freshman Roberto Nelson. The 6’3” guard was forced to sit out last year due to academics, but everyone from Corvallis said that he was the best player in practice all year. If you’re a Beaver fan, you’re thinking he’s the best thing since sliced bread and rank the Beavers closer to the top half of the Pac-10. We, here at MM, think that all of the Beavs need to curb their enthusiasm. Nelson is a great player, but it wouldn’t be hard to have been the best player at a Beavers practice. At least five Huskies from last year could have qualified for that amazing achievement. While I think that Nelson will add to their team, he’s not a league-changer…yet.
Incoming Freshmen:
Like I said earlier, Robinson continues to surprise in recruiting. While he is a great and creative coach, he has made the most of using his White House connection to get his name out there. I’m not saying that in a negative way, but he has used the tools he was given effectively. Topping the list of recruits is 6’8 power forward Devon Collier. The four star recruit from New Jersey looks to be a nice piece later on, but should come off of the bench for most of the year.
The 5’8” 150 pound point guard, Ahmad Starks, has already impressed coaches in Corvallis. Robinson continues to praise his speed and shooting ability. To quote Coach Robinson, “Number one, he’s a true point guard… Well, he probably picks things up the quickest. He has a terrific outside shot. He’s one of the guys on the team, very much like Lathen (Wallace), who when he comes on the court, he’s open. And then thirdly, just his ability to stop on a dime and be athletic at his size gives us a lot more options. His ability to make pull-up jump shots is going to help us. His ability to guard other teams’ guards is going to help us. And his overall sort of basketball intelligence is going to help us. He’s a real point guard. He knows how to score without having to be setup a lot. He’s arguably the best dribbler on the team and we focus on dribbling and he’s coming in with that ability.” For being a three star freshman recruit, he sure seems to be on Robinson’s good side. I would look to see this kid starting sooner than later.
Other freshman that joined the team but their impact will be small are 6’11” Chris Brown, 6’10” Eric Moreland, and 6’11” Daniel Jones. Robinson has stated that he wanted to add size to his program and it looks like he did.
Projected Starting Line-up:
PG: Jared Cunningham – 6’4”
SG: Calvin Hayes – 6’3”
SF: Roberto Nelson – 6’3”
PF: Omari Johnson – 6’9”
C: Joe Burton – 6’7”
Outlook:
This was the hardest starting line-up to put together. They have a plethora of guards and power forwards, but no skilled shooters from the wing. Robinson will be forced to play an extra guard or power forward at the 3 position all year until a player develops that skill.
Other potential starters could be guard Lathen Wallace, forward Daniel Deane, and guard Ahmad Starks. Nelson hasn’t played in a real meaningful game in over a year, so he might not start right away. This team will struggle at times, but they have a good combination of seniors and youth to compete with the best teams. Don’t sleep on the Beavers this year.
Prediction:
I see Oregon State going 8-10 this year. They will be a dangerous team at home, and many teams will think they can roll over the Beavers and will get upset. They have a chance to be better, but they also could take a step backwards. I’ll be comfortable sitting in the middle on them.
How UW beats them:
Just like Stanford, the key will be to lock-down Calvin Hayes with Holiday and force the ball down low. Their bigs aren’t very skilled, and the Dawgs must take advantage of this in the front court. The trick with Oregon State is their Princeton offense. Great off-ball defense is key to defeating the Princeton offense and the Huskies struggled with backdoor cuts last year. Eliminating those mental mistakes will be key for the Huskies versus the Beavers in 2010/11. I’m not too worried about the Huskies on offense as the Beavers defense will be worse with the loss of the Tarvers. Hopefully this will be another two game sweep.
Countdown Recap:
8. Stanford
9. California
10. Oregon
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Excellent analysis again. I agree with you — I don’t think OSU will be that good, but they will still be dangerous. They still have some talent and the style increases the chance of an upset.
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mark my words… This team will go as far as jared cunningham will take them.
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Thier mascot is a BEAVER… HA!! A BEEEVERRRR… ha ha.
Seriously – a Beaver…. Go Beavers go! Go you little fuzzy animals that do nothing but build wood dams all day long.
The Ducks and Beavers – hahahah
What a couple of loser mascots. One gets hunted and killed by just about everyone on the food chain, the other hides from any other animal in thier little wooden damn they build all thier life long.
Poll Question: Name two in state D1 mascots worse than these two. Seriously – name two for me? Name two that would be worse to go into battle with?
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^^^That had to be the most useless comment I have ever seen^^^
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Suggs does not surprise me. That would confirm Romar’s loyalty to those that work hard, take his criticism constructively and stay the course.
I think also that both Suggs and Gaddy are only starters out of the gate but must be productive to continue in starting roles.
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if gaddy doesnt step up i think we will find overton taking over the starting spot again
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evan:
your comment is worse… hands down. Go to gohuskies.com and stay off this board.
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Suggs!!! Yeah!!!
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I like that line-up to start things off. It provides a good quick strike look to start games.
After that, the staff would probably bring in Aziz and Venoy for Gaddy and Scott, moving Matt to the 4 and Holiday to the 3.
Next guys off the bench would be Gant for Matt and Ross and Wilcox for Isaiah and Justin.
Simmons will also play, because of depth issues up front or if Gant doesn’t produce.
I think that Darnell is going to do very well and play a lot, but Simmons will likely see the court this year in prime time, because of the pace that these guys are going to play.
Having him there allows UW to crash the boards harder and play more up on defense, as does having Aziz around to clean up the mess.
Nice 11-man rotation, but the juniors, seniors, Aziz and Gaddy will probably play the longer minutes, so it might feel more like the coaches are playing 8.
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Thanks for the input Jim.
Is Overton ready to play?
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i have rooted for suggs from the second he set fot on campus. he’s proven to be a team first guys with tons of talent. i’m hoping he gets serrious minutes. i’m assuming he’ll back up holiday at the 3 spot, but if he can crack the starting 5 i’m happy.
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I got to watch a practice a few weeks ago, and granted it was just one practice, but Suggs not only looked better to me than Wilcox or Ross (the two who most say he is competing for playing time with) but he actually looked to be one of the best players there, period.
Again, it was just one practice, but I came away extremely impressed by Suggs. He was doing everything well, shooting, defense, passing…but what surprised me more than anything was how well he handled the ball.
For what its worth, in this practice at least, Wilcox did not look good handling the ball…from what I saw I can’t imagine him ever playing the 2 spot…unless I misjudged (which has high probability
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Romar is NOT gonna play an 11-man rotation. It doesn’t work. Barring injuries, two of those guys will only see spot minutes by the time conference play starts. Book it.
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I think Simmons should redshirt. We made it through last season with just 3 bigs (MBA, Gant, Breshers) and I think Aziz is better than Breshers, if for no other reason just because he is healthy. Add the depth at the 3 and we won’t need Simmons this year unless there are significant injuries.
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I don’t think any one of the 11 players, including 4 (if that) bigs is going to red-shirt. Most conference contenders around the country have 5 serviceable big men. UW has 4, with Simmons a combo forward. No matter how you slice it, I just don’t see anyone getting a red-shirt for any other reason than injury.
Daddy,
I said that what UW will play will look like an 8 or 9-man rotation, but that playing aggressively and pushing tempo, along with match-ups will allow for 11 guys to make noticeable contributions. -
Might be to early to pose this question but just food for thought. If UW returns everyone including Isaiah and adds either Pelle or Chol….which team has the higher ceiling this years team or the next one? I feel that UW is still one or two years away from being able to compete for a national championship with the current depth up front.
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9 man rotation max… by the time confrence play starts – for sure. Guys need a solid 6-7min at a time to get into the flow.
Sorry Simmons, sorry wilcox or ross – simply not enough minutes for you guys.
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I don’t know about next year. The loss of MBA, Holiday, and VO will be huge. You can’t discount that. While the offensive fire power might be reloaded (with Wroten, Pelle, etc) The defense will be the huge loss next year. It’s one of those “on paper teams” that looks nice and shiny but might not have it all.
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Wilcox and Ross will both make their names heard this year. Ross is by far the most talented player on the team and you will all be screaming for him by the season’s end. Wilcox is just too good a shooter to not see time. He may grab Elston Turner kind of minutes this year.
If there is an odd man out, I would guess it would be Simmons at this point.
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Its too early to say which team would have the higher ceiling. I agree with Griffin though. It’s hard to estimate what kind of impact losing MBA, Holiday and Venoy will have on this team. They bring an intangible toughness that can’t necessarily be measured by any statistic. Their defense presence alone makes us a contender year in and year out. Although Wroten will show he can replace Venoy’s defensive presence from the outset of next year. Holiday and MBA will be tough to replace.
On paper, yes we will look more solid next year if we add Chol/Pelle to pair with the Chosen one, Tony Wroten. But there is no guarantee they will catch on to Romar’s system from the get-go. Its always a question on how each team will gel and how soon. With the loss of our seniors next year, I would guess that this year’s team has a higher ceiling. With our returning starters and upperclassmen, this team already knows what to expect from each other and will show it on the court.
Just my two cents.
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I think that the rotation will be the three posts (Gant, MBA and Aziz), with Simmons as injury foul trouble depth. the three PG’s (Gaddy, Venoy and Isaiah), Suggs and Holiday, with either Ross or Wilcox (whoever hyas the hot hand).. That amounts to a 9-man rotation with two guys hsaring one spot and one guy in reserve depending on need.
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